చెట్టు ముందా విత్తు ముందా అన్నట్లు

chettu munda vittu munda annatlu

Translation

Like asking whether the tree came first or the seed first.

Meaning

This expression is used to describe a classic chicken-and-egg dilemma or a circular argument where it is impossible to determine which of two related things happened or existed first. It is often applied to situations involving infinite regress or complex causal loops.

Related Phrases

Like having a thorny bush under a fruit-bearing tree

This expression is used to describe a situation where something beneficial or pleasant is accompanied by an unexpected nuisance or danger. It highlights how a good experience can be ruined or made difficult to access by a small but significant problem nearby, similar to how thorns make it hard to reach for sweet fruits.

Like asking whether the tree was first or the seed.

This expression is used to describe a classic 'chicken and egg' dilemma. It refers to a situation or debate where it is impossible to determine which of two related things happened first or is the primary cause of the other.

A problem that cannot be solved. Ask which was born first, the hen or the egg. (Italian.)*

If the husband calls his wife a widow, the beggar who comes to the door will also call her a widow.

This proverb highlights that if a family member (especially a protector) treats their own kin with disrespect or demeans them in public, outsiders will feel emboldened to do the same. It is used to advise that one must maintain dignity and respect within the family to ensure the world respects them as well.

Knees forward, elbows backward

This phrase describes a state of total exhaustion or a frantic struggle where someone is moving in an awkward, desperate manner. It is often used to characterize a person who is running away in fear or working so hard that their body is failing them, highlighting a lack of coordination or dignity due to extreme circumstances.

Which comes first, the blow or the Ekadashi fast?

This proverb is used to describe a situation where a person is already suffering from one problem and is suddenly hit with another. It specifically refers to being caught between a physical hardship (the blow) and a religious or self-imposed hardship (the fast). It is used when someone is overwhelmed by consecutive or simultaneous troubles.

Is the seed first or the tree first?

This is the Telugu equivalent of the 'Chicken or the egg' paradox. It is used to describe a circular argument or a situation where it is impossible to determine which of two interacting things is the cause of the other.

Is the river first? Or is the Eruvaka Purnima first?

This is a traditional agricultural proverb used to emphasize the importance of preparation and seasonal cycles. 'Eruvaka Purnima' is a festival celebrating the start of the sowing season. The expression is often used when questioning the logical order of things or when debating which event should take precedence in a cause-and-effect relationship.

Is the river first or the plowing festival first?

This is a rhetorical expression or a riddle-like saying often used to discuss the cyclical nature of things or to question priorities. 'Eruvaka' refers to the traditional festival marking the beginning of the plowing season. It highlights the deep connection between the arrival of rains (rivers) and the start of agricultural activity.

Was the hammer first, or were the tongs ?

This expression is used to describe a situation of extreme confusion, circular logic, or a 'chicken and egg' dilemma. It refers to the irony that a blacksmith needs a hammer to make pincers, but needs pincers to hold the metal to make a hammer. It is often used to mock someone who is confused about the order of operations or stuck in a paradox.

Did the auspicious wedding time come first, or did the palanquin arrive first?

This proverb is used to describe a situation where one is caught up in trivial or logistical details (like the arrival of a transport palanquin) while overlooking the primary, essential event (the wedding timing itself). It refers to poor prioritization or unnecessary confusion regarding the order of events.